The Build Guide [ – The Big Nerf]

A Fallout 76 Build by nulldesu.


Author: nulldesu
Votes: +30 (100% positiv)
Created: November 6, 2018 at 1:22 pm
Updated: January 30, 2019 at 10:24 am
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1.) Introduction
Hello, welcome to my build guide! That featured build you see up there is an example build for a heavy weapons user in power armor; Revenant can be swapped out during solo play (probably for Rejuvenated), likewise Lone Wanderer can be swapped out for team perks. This post will be a bit different from most other builds featured on this site, instead of focusing on a single build I will be analyzing how I feel character optimization should be approached as a whole in Fallout 76. It should be noted, however, that the ideas I argue in this post, while informed, are still opinions. There is no right or wrong way to play Fallout 76, and any perk loadout (or non-perk loadout) can succeed in this game. My point is that in trying to optimize characters in Fallout 76 (or any game for that matter) one has to make a series of assumptions on what matters most, and what doesn’t matter, not to mention all the assumptions that have to be made around a lack of clarity and information in game mechanics. If we disagree on these base assumptions be warned that our opinions of what choices are good and bad may differ wildly. On that matter, for building optimal characters in FO76 I place an emphasis on combat ability, particularly at the highest level of content (high level events, nuke zones, PVP), and less emphasis on convenience (eg. carrying more junk). This is because players can manage to get all the resources they need reasonably without having to devote space (at least permanently) in their limited SPECIAL and perk pools towards it. Combined with the ability to swap out perks on the fly, there will be less focus on perks that simply give convenience and more focus on the perks that greatly increase character power, the ones you’ll want all on at the same time when the going gets tough. Oh, I forgot to mention, if you haven’t noticed yet this post will be quite long. Sorry about that, but I appreciate anyone who takes the time to read through this. I hope you find something in here useful, so without further ado…

Table of Contents: (Use ctrl+f to find a section)
1.) Introduction

2.) The Tier System


4.) Perks
4a.) Swaps

5.) The Skeleton Build

6.) Build Packages

7.) Latest Changes

8.) Conclusion


2.) The Tier System
Throughout this guide I will be using a color system to denote how powerful I feel different features are. When I do this the name of a feature will appear in the corresponding color. NOTE: This will NOT be the case for perks. All perk names on this site are automatically made into hyperlinks to display their information when hovered over, and therefor all appear in a color very similar to my use of Gold. This may be confusing, and also prevents me from giving colors to any perk name. Due to this, all the perks will be ranked in a list. Please reference this section if needed when certain perks are mentioned elsewhere, in order to find their tier. 

I break up my ratings into four different tiers, based mainly on their power and their universality across a variety of characters. These are

Gold: Exceptional on every character, and you should make sure you have room in your build for them.

Blue: Pretty good on most or all characters; OR exceptional on certain characters. Pay attention to these.

Green: Nice to have but not very important. Otherwise pretty good on certain characters, or alright, but not particularly impressive, on everyone.

Red: Sub-optimal or just plain bad. Either outclassed by other choices or just plain not useful. I’d keep away from these unless you really like them.

LUCK: Modifies durability of looted gear and how fast critical hits charge. The real big deal on this stat though is the plethora of great perks that most characters will want.

AGILITY: Improves your stealth, increases your action points (which is a great deal) and offers perks that let you utilize them. AP is great for both increasing your damage (VATS crits), or lowering your opponents’ (Dodgy).

STRENGTH: Increases carrying capacity, but more importantly each point increases melee damage by 5%! Melee and unarmed focused characters should probably max this out.

CHARISMA: Gives better group rewards, vendor prices, and lets you share higher rank perk cards with teams, though really this function works just fine at one charisma. On the other hand, however, there are a couple particularly good perks here.

INTELLIGENCE: Affects the condition of crafted items, xp gained, and rewards from scrapping. This could be a dump stat, but with a small investment you can get access to all terminals and crafting in the game, not to mention the overpowered Demolition Expert perk.

PERCEPTION: Allows you to detect things on your compass from further and each point slightly increases accuracy in VATS, which is nice but too little to be important. There isn’t really much reason for most players to put many  points here. It is worth noting that most of the rifle perks are here, however, which keeps it out of RED.

ENDURANCE: The worst stat. Each point adds only a very small amount of hit points. On top of that, the best perks in this stat are only OK (eg: Rejuvenated, RevenantRadicool). NOTE: The big exception to this is Fireproof, which is a top tier defensive perk for high level PvP. Most characters would be fine leaving this rather low, maybe even at 1.

4.) Perks

The tier list for perks will be split into two sections. The first list will rate perks as if they are left equipped for long periods of time or indefinitely. The second list will rank some perks based on how useful they are to swap in for just a moment, to use them and swap them back out. Hopefully this will give you an idea of what perks might be useful to grab while not misleading you into thinking you should have them on all the time. Note that some on the swap-in list may not appear in the standard list, this is because I can’t find any good reason why they should be left on more than a few seconds.

GOLDBlocker, Lone Wanderer, Strange in Numbers, Action Boy/Action Girl, Adrenaline (1st Rank), Class FreakSerendipity (PvP), Starched GenesTenderizer (1st Rank), Dodgy (PvP), Demolition Expert, Fireproof (PvP)

BLUE: Weapon Damage Perks (1st Rank), Incisor, Martial Artist, ExterminatorBorn Survivor (1st Rank), Enforcer, Grim Reaper’s SprintRadicool, Team Medic (1st Rank), Dodgy (PvE), Critical Savvy, Serendipity (PvE), Ghoulish, Glow Sight, Four Leaf Clover, Gun Fu (1st Rank), Concentrated Fire, Suppressor (PvE ONLY), Revenant, Party Boy/Party Girl, Bloody Mess, Mister Sandman, Better Criticals (1st Rank)

GREEN: Weapon Damage Perks (2nd/3rd Rank), Barbarian, Scattershot, Crack Shot, Fire in the Hole, Grenadier, Long Shot, Skeet Shooter, Cola NutRejuvenatedBodyguards (1st Rank), Field SurgeonRad Sponge (1st Rank), Squad ManeuverFirst Aid, Stabilized, Adrenaline (2nd/3rd/4th/5th Ranks), Escape Artist, Evasive, Gun RunnerMarathoner, Ninja, Secret Agent, SneakCuratorMysterious Savior, Quick HandsTormentorTeam Medic (2nd/3rd Ranks), Ordnance ExpressGun Fu (2nd/3rd Ranks), Nerd Rage, Gunsmith, BandolierBatteries IncludedTraveling PharmacyPower UserRobotics Expert, Luck of the Draw (1st Rank), Wrecking Ball, Tank Killer, One Gun Army, Covert Operative, Fireproof (PvE).

REDBasher, Bear Arms, Bullet Shield, Full Charge, Lock And Load, Pack Rat, Strong Back, Sturdy Frame,  Awareness, Fortune FinderNight Eyes, Night Person, Refractor, Adamantium Skeleton, All Night Long, Aquaboy/Aquagirl, Cannibal, Chem Fiend, DromedaryHomebody, Hydro Fix, Iron Stomach, Ironclad, Lead Belly, Lifegiver, Munchy Resistance, Natural Resistance, Nocturnal Fortitude, Photosynthetic, Professional Drinker, Rad Resistant, Slow Metabolizer, Solar Powered, Sun Kissed, Thirst Quencher, Vaccinated, Animal Friend, Anti-Epidemic, Bodyguards (2nd/3rd/4th Ranks), E.M.T., Friendly Fire, Happy Camper, Happy-Go-Lucky, Healing Hands, Injector, Inspirational, Magnetic Personality, Overly Generous, Philanthropist, Quack Surgeon, Rad Sponge (2nd/3rd Rank), Spiritual Healer, Tenderizer (2nd/3rd Rank), Wasteland Whisperer, Pharmacist, Born Survivor (2nd/3rd Ranks), Dead Man Sprinting, Goat LegsModern Renegade, Moving Target, Packin’ Light, Thru-Hiker, Better Criticals (2nd/3rd Ranks), Can Do!, Good With SaltDry Nurse, Junk Shield, Last Laugh, Luck of the Draw (3rd Rank), Lucky Break, Mystery MeatRicochetSniperGood DoggyBloodsuckerPortable Power, Pain TrainWhite Knight, Licensed PlumberPercepti-bobblePannapictagraphist, Home Defense, Light Footed, Makeshift Warrior, Psycopath, Mysterious Stranger, Storm Chaser.

NOT FUNCTIONING: Luck of the Draw (2nd Rank)

NOT FUNCTIONING PROPERLY: Barbarian/Evasive (If your relevant SPECIAL stat is a fraction due to Class Freak, these stop functioning entirely.), Concentrated Fire (No Damage Buff), Martial Artist (Affects the firing speed of gatling guns, heavy users rejoice!)

4a.) Swaps

Eventually you can have every perk and thus swap in a card for any imaginable scenario, but some of them are useful enough to make a note of picking up even early on, I’ll just rank the notable ones here, according to which I think are the highest priority.

GOLD: White Knight, Fix it Good, Weapon Artisan, Super Duper, Home Defense.

BLUE: Picklock, Expert Picklock, Master Picklock, Armorer, Chemist, Gunsmith, Makeshift Warrior, Power Patcher, Science, Science Expert, Science Master, Ammosmith, Green Thumb, Travel Agent, Hard BargainCap Collector.

GREENHacker, Expert Hacker, Master Hacker, Contractor, Licensed Plumber, Power SmithButcher’s BountyPharma FarmaScrounger, Weight Reduction Perks (Fast Travel).


5.) The Skeleton Build
What is the skeleton build? The skeleton build is a set of SPECIAL and perks meant to work as a framework, or the skeleton, for other builds to be built around and flesh out. Its focus is to contain all of the strongest perks that are exceptionally useful for most, if not all, characters, regardless of what kind of gear they like to use. By using this guide you can very quickly build a strong foundation for a character before deciding on what personal touches you want to add onto it, so I hope it will be useful for planning your own builds.

Level: 26 (29-33)

Strength – 3: Blocker

Perception – 3: Concentrated Fire

Endurance – 2(3): Rejuvenated/Revenant. (Swap for Ghoulish in Nuke Zones or for high level Ghouls) OPTIONAL: Fireproof (Incredible in PvP against explosive weapons)

Charisma – 5(8): Tenderizer (1st Rank), Lone Wanderer (Swap for team perks when grouping) OPTIONAL: Suppressor (Doesn’t work in PvP)

Intelligence – 5: Demolition Expert (Explosive legendary effect); also allows all crafting perks and Wrecking Ball/Hacker as needed.

Agility – 4(7): Action Boy/Action Girl, Adrenaline (1st Rank) OPTIONAL: Dodgy (Incredible for PvP, but not as great for PvE and competes with VATS)

Luck – 11: Class Freak, Starched Genes, Serendipity, Bloody Mess

This gives you a very good starting point for just about any character, but it isn’t complete. From this point on you should add in the perks that will let your character excel at what you want them to do. You could simply splatter in other highly rated perks, but if you need a little more help…

6.) Build Packages

In this section I’ll list bundles of perks that can be added to a character to make them competent at a specific play style. Note that the SPECIAL requirements listed need to be added on-top of any SPECIAL you are already working with, such as from the Skeleton Build, unless you weren’t already using those SPECIAL points for other perks. Also note that you may be able to fit multiples of these bundles onto a single build, usually by switching between the perks, and this should be taken advantage of. “Basic” bundles contain only the best perks for a certain play style, “Specialized” bundles also add in perks that are nice but not as necessary to excel, and finally “Hyper-Specialized” bundles include everything to improve fighting with that specific focus, efficiency be damned (Most won’t contain weight-reducing perks as they just aren’t helpful for combat). *Specialized and Hyper-Specialized bundles only list perks that are changes from lower versions of the bundle.

VATS: 14-15 LCK, 15 AGI. Grim Reaper’s Sprint, Four Leaf Clover OR Critical Savvy, Better Criticals (1st Rank), Gun Fu (1st Rank most important).

Basic Heavy Guns: 3 STR, 3 LCK. Heavy Gunner/Expert Heavy Gunner/Master Heavy Gunner (1st Rank), One Gun Army.

Specialized Heavy Guns: 3 STR, 3 LCK, 3 INT. Stabilized.

Hyper-Specialized Heavy Guns: 15 STR, 3 LCK, 3 INT. Heavy Gunner, Expert Heavy Gunner, Master Heavy Gunner, Bullet Shield, Lock And Load.

Basic Explosives: 5 INT. Demolition Expert.

Specialized Explosives: 5 INT, 3 STR. Ordnance Express.

Hyper-Specialized Explosives: 5 INT, 5 PER, 3 STR. Fire in the Hole, Grenadier.

Basic Shotguns: 3 STR, 3 AGI. Shotgunner/Expert Shotgunner/Master Shotgunner (1st Rank), Enforcer.

Hyper-Specialized Shotguns: 12 STR, 3 AGI, 3 PER. Shotgunner, Expert Shotgunner, Master Shotgunner, Scattershot, Skeet Shooter.

Basic Rifles: 3 PER. Commando/Expert Commando/Master Commando (1st Rank) OR Rifleman/Expert Rifleman/Master Rifleman (1st Rank).

Hyper-Specialized Rifles: 15 PER, 3 LCK. Commando/Expert Commando/Master Commando OR Rifleman/Expert Rifleman/Master Rifleman, Long Shot,Tormentor, Tank Killer.

Basic Pistols: 3 AGI. Guerrilla/Expert Guerrilla/Master Guerrilla (1st Rank) OR Gunslinger/Expert Gunslinger/Master Gunslinger (1st Rank).

Hyper-Specialized Pistols: 14 AGI, 3 PER. Guerrilla/Expert Guerrilla/Master Guerrilla OR Gunslinger/Expert Gunslinger/Master Gunslinger, Modern Renegade, Gun RunnerCrack Shot.

Basic Melee: 9+ STR. Gladiator/Expert Gladiator/Master Gladiator (1st Rank) OR Slugger/Expert Slugger/Master Slugger (1st Rank), Incisor, Martial ArtistOPTIONAL: -3 Perception (Concentrated Fire)

Hyper-Specialized Melee: 15 STR, 3 AGI. Gladiator/Expert Gladiator/Master Gladiator OR Slugger/Expert Slugger/Master Slugger, Ninja.

7.) Latest Changes

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  • Luck moved back up to GOLD tier. With two-shot being HEAVILY nerfed, VATS makes a strong comeback as optimal guns will once again actually be able to hit in it. The best primary modifiers on guns now will be bloodied, furious, and junkie’s, which all lack the negative synergy two-shot weapons had.
  • Fireproof moved up to GOLD tier for PvP, and GREEN tier for PvE. Despite the huge nerf to the explosive legendary effect, it is still the best in slot for 2nd legendary effects, and will push guns into huge damage numbers (though not as ridiculous as before). This means that against anyone using an explosive weapon Fireproof becomes an incredibly strong defensive perk, nearly cutting their damage in half.
  • The first rank of Better Criticals moved up to BLUE tier. The big two-shot nerf means optimal endgame guns will actually be able to hit in VATS, making VATS and crit builds more viable again.

8.) Conclusion
If you’ve read this far through all of the guide I must say that I’m impressed, and sincerely grateful that you would devote your time to reading all of this. Thank you. In any case, I can’t promise that I’ll always keep this guide up to date, although I do like the thought of it. You can help me by giving your feedback on gameplay or writing. I would definitely appreciate you pointing out any errors I’ve made, or just arguing with me on what is good or not. I imagine by learning from all of you that I can fine-tune this guide into something better. That said, remember that I understand the statements within this guide are just my opinion, and I’m not claiming them to be the absolute truth. Finally, there is no right or wrong way to play Fallout 76, please don’t let anyone’s opinion on characters deter you, HAVE FUN. Thank you.

Also check out my shotgun build at https://www.falloutbuilds.com/builds/theshotgunbuild/ (I mean if you feel like it or something…)

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Is it possible to get a level by level perk plan for this? Or perhaps the LVL tab could be used? This build looks really good!


Your ranking of Perks seem to be more PvE oriented… you did not include all the best perks in gold tier for PvP builds.

Here is my tier list for example for PvP based ranking:

God Tier: Blocker, Refractor, Adamantium Skeleton, Ironclad, Field Surgeon, Lone Wanderer/Squad Maneuver + Team Medic, Suppressor, Tenderizer, Action Boy/Action Girl, Dodgy, Moving Target, First Aid, Nerd Rage, Serendipity, Bloody Mess.

Then the rest are all situational based on builds as in “build packages” like you mention like how Incisor and Martial Artist almost always want to go together… so here are my packages:

Martial Artist + Incisor

Barbarian + Radicool

Fireproof + Friendly Fire

Action Boy/Action Girl + Dodgy

Evasive + Moving Target + Action Boy/Action Girl + Dodgy + Marathoner

Nerd Rage + Serendipity + Born Survivor + Field Surgeon + First Aid

There are other packages but these are the best in my opinion.

All other packages and perks are more specific to their build like all the shotgun perks for a shotgun user for example.

With that said, I hope you include a PvP tier list in the discussion and add my thoughts I’ve mentioned to your guide. I agree with most of the things you mentioned but it’s all just PvE focused at the moment.


I upvoted but Team Medic in teams applies stimpack heals to the entire team. While solo its useless its easily one of the strongest Perks in the game. Magnetic Personality, Probably tied for top 3 Perks in the game. Allows a CHA 4-7 character (team size and 1 or 2 Star depending) to easily Share 3 to 4 Star Perks. And Each member can do this. This is an easy +9 stars with of perks to each member of a team… Massively strong.

Lead belly is stronger than red. Its free food/water, always well fed and satiated, and lower rads. While its largely QoL, for most of the game its the Best QoL there is.

IMO, thanks man.


This is an amazing analysis. You’ve really done the fallout community a great service. I personally was working during most of the beta times and had made some improper conclusions for my build. Optimizing it for the early game content. I’m definitely making some changes after reading this.

for the nuke zones should I have enough endurance to grab rad resistant, fireproof, or both? I’m planning on using melee without power armor.


Hey guys, I’m going to start making a post here in the comment section when I make a major update so I can talk briefly about why it’s changed and other things I’m thinking about. (Also it bumps my guide to the top of the activity list, aren’t I dirty.) In any case there are a few things I want to address.

Serendipity is remaining at gold tier even though I’ve been informed (and confirmed) that it doesn’t work at all while in power armor. This is because regular armor is actually going to be a viable (if not preferential) option in late-end game content. While power armor will still be needed to deal with the RADs of nuke zones, the fact is that certain legendary effects are very strong, and while I believe it might be (or will be in the future) possible to obtain legendary power armor pieces, I have yet to see any at all. This is particularly important for PvP with the Assassin’s armor legendary effect. At this point in time I believe the strongest PvP strategy involves stacking as many direct damage lessening effects as possible (such as % reductions, not flat resistances). This strategy would necessarily include Serendipity to stack on the survivability, and also Dodgy, which explains its move up. Basically, I think good legendary armor (especially PvP) may be better than power armor so Serendipity stays in the top tier.

Storm chaser.. yikes. Sorry about this one guys, this took me way too long to notice. I’ve had had this effect active in nuke zones before, so I assumed the nuke zones themselves counted as a radstorm but it turns out that this doesn’t seem to be the case. Don’t get me wrong, the effect is still super strong when it is active, but using it turns out to be more awkward than I thought since you can never rely on it being active. It may rain/radstorm at any time, and it could stop at any time, so it might not always be convenient to switch this in or out on the spot. Sorry for having this too highly ranked for so long.

In any case I want to take a moment to thank everyone who have read and commented on the guide. Those that offered feedback helped me to look closer at important areas and hammer out my opinions, whether I ended up agreeing or not (a fair amount of both). And another thanks to all the people who voted on this guide. You’ve all made this guide the top rated on the entire site, and I’m not sure if I really deserve it, and I don’t want to toot my own horn (well I do, but I shouldn’t), but thank you it’s very encouraging to me. I am currently mulling over whether to add sections onto this guide about legendary effects, buffs (chems/mutations/food), and consumables. I’m not sure if I’ll add it here, make another guide in the GUIDES section where these things actually belong (sorry), or I might just end up not writing it at all. It’s a lot of thinking and work. We’ll see. Just wanted to let you guys know whats on my mind. Thanks again, have fun!


Thanks for your guide. It made me rethink of how to play the game.


Hi, what do you think about taking 4 endurance and lifegiver perk on any build? Instead of the starting 250 health you would have 310 which is roughly 25% more health. I don’t know how much damage the monsters deal in late game but a 60 health boost for 3 endurance points might be worth it for anyone.


Look very useful, something I think everyone would enjoy on a daily basis


Won’t rejuvenated 2p provide disease immunity? If so, it might be worth to pick. And batteries included actually lowers weight of fusion cores so you can rank it a bit higher.

Upvoted btw., really great guide nulldesu. Can you cover mutations in your guide aswell? I was thinking about Empath mutation with Strange in numbers + Class freak. If it stacks with all group members using this mutation, it might be a bit broken.


What a really cool guide to builds. Job well done!

My one question though is how can we do the skeleton build as a basis if some of those perk cards are way above the level 26 requirement to use?

I look forward to checking this out as you update it through and through. +1


Thanks a bunch for this! Curious to how much things have changed since you released this.. especially with wastelanders.


I was reading the comments below and you mentioned that flat resistance perks are not good late game because they will be a small percentage of your total Armor. What armors are you pertaining to? I’m really curious about this because the build I have in mind have almost all Flat resistance perk cards maxed.. Also most of them have (No power armor) at the end of their description. Does that mean those perk cards wont take effect if you are in a Power Armor?


Is this strong enough for a Non Power Armor Melee Build, or do I need to take away some of my damage perks for tanker options?

November 7, 2018 at 3:01 pm

This is a great analysis, but why don’t you have basic/specialized sections for power armor and crafting as well as weapons?

Joseph Pavidis
November 17, 2018 at 9:14 am

I very much enjoyed and am thankful for your guide. I have really enjoyed fallout, even though fallout 4 was my first entry in the series. I was a little frustrated and overwhelmed with the multitude of choices, but your guide has helped me tremendously make up my mind on certain aspects specifically related to team play. I always play with my brother so I made a few tweeks (specifically to the lone wanderer etc) but I still want to thank you for helping me create a baseline for this otherwise daunting task.


Not for nothing, but I hot swap Travel Agent constantly lol 🙂 It adds up to a massive savings at the end of the day. It’s nothing that’s super useful until you’re leveled 50+, but as an extra freebie card out of a pack or post level 50, it’s awesome.

Kevin PharmD
December 1, 2018 at 1:13 am

I happen to notice I did not see White Knight mentioned in your tier list. I find that it would be extremely helpful for those who do no PA builds as it makes your armor break less and much cheaper to repair.

December 24, 2018 at 12:30 pm


some perk cards not working and might be useless for some builds


Hey everyone, another update. First I’d like to say, after reading the patch notes I’m pretty happy with what I see. I’m not entirely sure if they fixed the infamous damage bug, that might be what they’re talking about with ‘not being able to kill in PvP’ or ‘stability issues’ or maybe not. Besides that however there is a lot of good here. The BIG factor to take away from this patch for optimization though is that…

There is no explosive bullets nerf. That means that the meta of the game is going to continue to be defined by getting explosive guns, and multiplying an already overpowered effect’s strength with synergizing aspects like multiple shots and rapid fire. There are a few consequences of this that are affecting my ratings a little.

Maximizing damage through perks isn’t quite as important. This is because of the synergy between explosive + two shot + Demolition Expert pulling MUCH more weight than the +10% and definitely the +5% damage buffs. You can still do overwhelming amounts of damage with very minimal perk cards.

PvE combat content becomes quite easy once you get an explosive weapon (and gear it and yourself out properly). Besides the controllable but incredible danger of one-shotting yourself with your gun, not much can survive long enough against a good explosive weapon to be a real threat to you. This also means that durability is even less of a concern in PvE, and it was already fairly easy to face-tank the PvE content anyway. This in turn means that…

Quality of life perks are a bit better. This is because they have less competition from the combat perks that are less needed. Don’t get me wrong, this guide and the tier list still have a strong focus on combat ability above convenience, but the truth is having more stuff, holding more stuff, and making stuff last longer is somewhat a component of character power. There aren’t any big movers in the tier list from this, but a few quality of life perks managed to edge their way up partly due to these facts.

Finally, Ghoulish was the perk that had the big jump this time. It sorta turns out to be what I had originally expected Storm Chaser was going to be. Obviously a situational perk not to be used at all times, but a very strong one when it does apply. Being spread over 3 points rather than 2 giving you the greatest benefit keeps it out of gold tier, but besides that it makes you incredibly tanky in nuke zones or events/locations with charred and bloated ghouls (eg. Defiance, Monster Mash).

Anyway, please keep the feedback coming, and as always hope it helps!

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